Comments on: P.I.D. Radio 3/22/09: Shocked to Find Gambling Going On In Here https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/ Theopolitics and the Paranormal from a Christian Worldview Sun, 22 May 2011 18:26:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: alice https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2557 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:56:01 +0000 http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360#comment-2557 I am still thinking about the shroud of Turin. My husband and I have discussed this. The cc church years ago used to practically worship artifacts, bones, people thought to be saints. they would save these relics. the devil is the same. we have to be careful not to worship the creature and instead worship the Creator. I figure if the devil can do false miracles, ufo’s etc signs and wonders…that fallen beings are capable of making a shroud, making it look and feel like it is 2000 years old. they can make it look real ‘scientific’. My generation in the 70’s instead of reading the Bible for themselves started believing ‘every’ so called prophet, read every book out there. “christian books so called had everything out there that was totally confused with all the different doctrines. They didn’t check out what the pastors preached to see if it were true in the Bible. Still going on…I found just reading the Bible took the confusion away… after going through hell…a religious spirit was all around us, and many took advantage of new believers…said we were ‘free through Christ Jesus” than took control and basically threw that out and made sure that others taught us what ‘really’ so called…the Bible said. I knew the Bible is evidence. also, no books in the NT ever mentioned that the ‘shadow’ of Jesus, imprint, whatever…was on the cloth. this would have been big news even by the disciples in the NT who saw Jesus after he rose or were in the burial cave three days later, when the angels were in there too. The two pieces of cloth separated from each other in the cave. ( at least Mary) saw the angels… The big news was that Jesus rose from the dead! I have heard about the shroud since the 70’s. went to the movie…and it was convincing…yet still I was not really convinced it was Jesus. John 20:7 why didn’t I notice that back than? still no matter what is the evidence and Word of God that said there were two pieces. From what I have seen on the internet…people are not reading the scriptures enough and should read it for themselves.God WILL show them knowledge if they truly search. We were suckered by the PTL network…new believers who loved God and since than have grown in the Lord, or given up completely…in God… to find out that there were a lot of ‘wolves in sheep’s clothing ‘ preaching and getting money by the millions. We were taught a lot of lies. I left the CC church only to find out that ‘mind control’ is everywhere, including Bible churches and protestant churches. Are they really different than the CC? Just the same God has revealed and taught things to me because I believed the Word of God. I believed God. We need discernment of the Holy Spirit and need to get rid of the sin of pride, repent for our sins because the devil can destroy us in ways we haven’t thought of, even though we feel we are ‘informed’ or intellectually superior because of ‘knowledge’. ” the beginning of Wisdom is the fear of the Lord” If the Bible disagrees with ‘evidence’ than the Bible is true and the so called ‘evidence’ of the so called Shroud of Turin, supposedly Jesus is a lie. I have come to this conclusion after 30 plus years. Believe me…pastors don’t like me talking like this…they like to control others, even though I guess there are a few godly men out there somewhere. They are not used to fisherman like Peter who was not educated. ” the Word is God” john 1:1 powerful as a two edged sword. thanks am this is not a complete duplicate of upper statement. it also talks about how easy it is to be deceived by ‘signs and wonders’ of the last days.

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By: alice https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2556 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:51:28 +0000 http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360#comment-2556 I am still thinking about the shroud of Turin. My husband and I have discussed this. The cc church years ago used to practically worship artifacts, bones, people thought to be saints. they would save these relics. the devil is the same. we have to be careful not to worship the creature and instead worship the Creator. I figure if the devil can do false miracles, ufo’s etc signs and wonders…that fallen beings are capable of making a shroud, making it look and feel like it is 2000 years old. they can make it look real ‘scientific’. My generation in the 70’s instead of reading the Bible for themselves started believing ‘every’ so called prophet, read every book out there. “christian books so called had everything out there that was totally confused with all the different doctrines. They didn’t check out what the pastors preached to see if it were true in the Bible. Still going on…I found just reading the Bible took the confusion away… after going through hell…a religious spirit was all around us, and many took advantage of new believers…said we were ‘free through Christ Jesus” than took control and basically threw that out and made sure that others taught us what ‘really’ so called…the Bible said. I knew the Bible is evidence. also, no books in the NT ever mentioned that the ‘shadow’ of Jesus, imprint, whatever…was on the cloth. this would have been big news even by the disciples in the NT who saw Jesus after he rose or were in the burial cave three days later, when the angels were in there too. The two pieces of cloth separated from each other in the cave. ( at least Mary) saw the angels… The big news was that Jesus rose from the dead! I have heard about the shroud since the 70’s. went to the movie…and it was convincing…yet still I was not really convinced it was Jesus. John 20:7 why didn’t I notice that back than? still no matter what is the evidence and Word of God that said there were two pieces. From what I have seen on the internet…people are not reading the scriptures enough and should read it for themselves.God WILL show them knowledge if they truly search. We were suckered by the PTL network…new believers who loved God and since than have grown in the Lord, or given up completely…in God… to find out that there were a lot of ‘wolves in sheep’s clothing ‘ preaching and getting money by the millions. We were taught a lot of lies. I left the CC church only to find out that ‘mind control’ is everywhere, including Bible churches and protestant churches. Are they really different than the CC? Just the same God has revealed and taught things to me because I believed the Word of God. I believed God. We need discernment of the Holy Spirit and need to get rid of the sin of pride, repent for our sins because the devil can destroy us in ways we haven’t thought of, even though we feel we are ‘informed’ or intellectually superior because of ‘knowledge’. ” the beginning of Wisdom is the fear of the Lord” If the Bible disagrees with ‘evidence’ than the Bible is true and the so called ‘evidence’ of the so called Shroud of Turin, supposedly Jesus is a lie. I have come to this conclusion after 30 plus years. Believe me…pastors don’t like me talking like this…they like to control others, even though I guess there are a few godly men out there somewhere. They are not used to fisherman like Peter who was not educated. ” the Word is God” john 1:1 powerful as a two edged sword. thanks am

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By: Cendrillon https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2484 Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:55:08 +0000 http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360#comment-2484 I love doing research on the Shroud of Turin, and the more I learn about it, the more I am convinced that it truly is the burial cloth of Christ.

As for what is refered to as the ‘face cloth’, or the ‘napkin’, it’s called a Sudarium, and it resides in Oviedo, Spain, and has been extensively studied, and conclusions draw about it, that have not yet been reached concerning the authenticity of the Shroud, itself. The Sudarium does not have an image on it, but it does have quite alot of blood.

But, the Sudarium was not placed on Jesus’ face during burial–the Sudarium was placed over His head after He died, as He hung on the cross, in order to hide His poor, disfigured face from being seen by the crowds, as per the Jewish custom of that date.

It has multiple blood stains, one on top of the other, especially in the area of the nostrils, and the stains occured one right after the other. The investigations, and tests done, demonstrated that the first stains were formed right after the cloth was placed over the Lord’s head, while He still hung on the cross.

The second blood stains occured when they removed His body from the cross, which was some time after the first stains had dried. The third stains occured about 45 minutes later, as He was lifted and carried away from Golgotha, according to the medical investigator, Dr. Jose Villalain, member of the Investigation Team of the Spanish Centre for Sindonology. The website on which this information can be found, is:

http://www.shroud.com/guscin.htm

So, the use of the ‘face cloth’, or Sudarium, was prior to His burial, not during it, and that it more than quite possibly is, due to it’s known history[which is greater than the known history of the Shroud, itself] the same ‘face cloth’/’napkin’, mentioned in John 20:7, which is why it was found “…wrapped together in a place by itself”. It apparently had been placed their after the Lord’s body had been wrapped in the shroud, and laid in the tomb.

Facinating subject, the Shroud–I love delving into it, very much!

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By: Sharon’s Dream « Kit’s Blog https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2471 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:33:58 +0000 http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360#comment-2471 […] http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360 […]

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By: alice https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2469 Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:15:52 +0000 http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360#comment-2469 I have heard about the Shroud of Turin over 30 years and I just put it on the back burner. I was not completely convinced yet wondered was it or was it not the linen Jesus was wrapped in? I have read St. John 20 for years too but something stood out I think last year… It is like God opened up my eyes and answered my question about the Shroud Of Turin.

John 20:7 “And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.”

It is simple, the Shroud of Turin, no matter how convincing the test etc is NOT the fabric that was wrapped around Jesus. The Bible states two pieces. We should all check out the scriptures more because it is amazing how one can read these passages time after time and miss something. It is obvious that God felt this info to be important to be put into the Bible for such a time as this. thanks, alice m. ps about Feb 09 broadcast about a piece concerning the Shroud.

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By: alice https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2468 Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:11:22 +0000 http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360#comment-2468 I have heard about the Shroud of Turin for years, I just put it on the back burner. I was not completely convinced yet wondered was it or was it not the linen Jesus was wrapped in? I have read St. John 20 for years too but something stood out a few months back or more to me. It is like God opened up my eyes and answered my question about the Shroud Of Turin.

John 20:7 “And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.”

It is simple, the Shroud of Turin, no matter how convincing the test etc is a lie and not the fabric that was wrapped around Jesus. We should all check out the scriptures more because it is amazing how one can read these passages time after time and miss something this important. It is obvious that God felt this info to be important to be put into the Bible. thanks, alice m.

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By: tjv72 https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2458 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:57:00 +0000 http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360#comment-2458 I agree that no translation other than original languages is perfect. I like KJV but in Acts 12:4 it says Peter was put in jail on Easter.
Nope try Pascha or Passover. what Sharon said was correct.

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By: Thanks to kit for this one… « Damascus Road https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2457 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:52:14 +0000 http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360#comment-2457 […] http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360 Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Great posts from Kits blog…you rock kitster!Occult symbolism of the recovery billObamas All New and Impregnable Firewall – It’s About AmericaObama FISA Test: FAIL! […]

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By: Stimulus Package ‘The Beginning of the End’ « Kit’s Blog https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2456 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:21:22 +0000 http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360#comment-2456 […] http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360 Published in: […]

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By: alice mabry https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2454 Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:10:05 +0000 http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360#comment-2454 I am also glad Sharon and Derek are back with PID radio and their broadcast. I started getting interested not long before they got off. May God send his angels around to protect you and your family. thank you, alice

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By: John https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2445 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:28:26 +0000 http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360#comment-2445 New site design is schweet!

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By: IFIXVW https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2438 Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:49:23 +0000 http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360#comment-2438 william g is right were getting spioled. but im still glad to be hearing new pid’s.just one thing to add nicole for president on 2012 🙂 we need some one with brains on the white house

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By: pixelnate https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2436 Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:02:12 +0000 http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360#comment-2436 I am so glad that you two are producing podcasts again. I miss the weekly show schedule.

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By: Doug https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2434 Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:34:44 +0000 http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360#comment-2434 There is no audio for the 3/22 show.

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By: Weapon of Mass Distraction » Schrodinger’s bailout https://www.pidradio.com/2009/03/22/pid-radio-32209-shocked-to-find-gambling-going-on-in-here/comment-page-1/#comment-2432 Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:33:18 +0000 http://www.pidradio.com/?p=360#comment-2432 […] these days) — may lead some to conclude that my tirade against the Geither bailout plan on this week’s P.I.D. Radio was motivated only by politics. Not […]

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